[balloon-makers] Propane storage
Mike & Tammie
skyfun at ncia.net
Sat Jun 2 08:40:31 CDT 2001
It seems to me that leaves only one way to get the tank onto the roof....
but then, how do you get it refilled for the flight off??? There must be a
solution to this problem and I'm sure someone on this list will have an
answer or two. ;-)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Deering" <hot-air at deering.org>
To: <balloon-makers at deering.org>
Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2001 9:27 AM
Subject: Re: [balloon-makers] Propane storage
> When I wrote "I kept the tank outdoors", that was shorthand for "I
> put it behind a friend's garage while we were at the party rather
> than leave it in my trunk for a few hours." I would never keep a
> tank of propane indoors.
> Also, I do not keep propane next to my bed, I keep a *tank* next to
> my bed, which has no propane in it.
> And a clarification of NYC law, you can keep propane on your roof. So
> it is technically possible. But you can't take it up there by going
> inside the building.
> On 6/1/01, Jonathan Wolfe wrote:
> >Hiya Tom - Glad you're having fun with your burner.
> >I don't always know when to take you seriously, but
> >the storage of propane is a very serious matter
> >indeed, and should NEVER EVER be stored in
> >door, even if NYC didn't have laws against it.
> >Beer kegs by your bed, no explanation needed,
> >but propane, *no way*. I've heard wicked stories
> >of houses or garages blowing up from a leak that
> >finally reaches a pilot light. I've never seen it
> >happen, and I'd like to keep it that way.
> >And watch those copper burners too... :)
> >P.S. Lately I've been learning to paraglide, and
> >besides being the funnest thing EVER, it has the
> >advantage of being free (after you buy a wing) and
> >it doesn't involve carrying a large amount of a
> >compressed explosive gas.
> >--- Tom Deering <hot-air at deering.org> wrote:
> >> I got to fire up my burner! I had given it a few
> >> squirts at Keith's
> >> house, but I really got to play with it, with lots
> >> of room and a
> >> hospital only 45 minutes away. My wife and
> >> mother-in-law were
> >> horrified by the noise and flame, which was a nice
> >> added benefit. I
> >> practiced connecting, pressurizing, burning,
> >> de-pressurizing and
> >> disconnecting, just for the experience.
> >> (This is not something I can do in Manhattan. It is
> >> forbidden to
> >> have propane indoors, and most of the bridges and
> >> tunnels forbid
> >> propane tanks. Fine: ten thousand dollars and 30
> >> days. I'm thinking
> >> of disguising my tank as a beer keg. Then I'll just
> >> have to explain
> >> why there is a beer keg next to my bed.)
> >> I bought some parts and made a small experimental
> >> copper burner. One
> >> day, I would like to make a smaller burner with an
> >> output more
> >> proportional to my small balloon. Not much to
> >> report, except that
> >> the copper pipe broke apart after the tests! There
> >> was no pressure
> >> in the line, and I can't exactly explain why it
> >> happened, but the
> >> tubing broke near one of the ports I drilled. Now I
> >> have my answer
> >> why burners are not made out of easier-to-machine
> >> copper. Otherwise,
> >> the copper burner was no big deal, but it did give
> >> me something to
> >> play with.
> >> What with the valve leak and all, I decided to get
> >> rid of the
> >> propane, but I didn't want to vent it into the air.
> >> So ran a copper
> >> line underneath the fire ring for the beach fire.
> >> We had days of
> >> soaking rain, so a normal fire was impossible, but
> >> the soaked wood
> >> burned very nicely with propane coaxing.
> >> Particularly with liquid
> >> propane. :^) We had a big beach fire three nights
> >> in a row, and I
> >> used up the last of the propane at midnight before
> >> we left.
> >> ---
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